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	<title>Comments for SWC ~ Sustaining the Wild Coast ~</title>
	<link>http://www.swc.org.za</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Wild Coast dune mining: Toward a “Ministry of Life”. by Carlyn Frittelli</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/wild-coast-dune-mining-toward-a-%e2%80%9cministry-of-life%e2%80%9d.htm#comment-1093</link>
		<author>Carlyn Frittelli</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/wild-coast-dune-mining-toward-a-%e2%80%9cministry-of-life%e2%80%9d.htm#comment-1093</guid>
					<description>Very good article! I am busy writing my 4th year LLB dissertation on EIAs with regard to the mining industry. It is a rather complex situation, but as long as there are communities as you have described and people like yourself, the environment should stand a better chance against selfish businessmen. My view is that an independent department, either under the government or not, should handle authorisations, that way impartiality might better exist. As it has been stated, it will take 3 years to transfer DMEs mandate to DEAT, why not build up expertise and establish a separate 'ministry', still having DEAT as the ultimate appeal authority though? Economics and the environment just need to find a way of being friends, as both need each other to survive, and ultimately the human race needs them both to sustain our existence!!!

Carlyn Frittelli, Pretoria South Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good article! I am busy writing my 4th year LLB dissertation on EIAs with regard to the mining industry. It is a rather complex situation, but as long as there are communities as you have described and people like yourself, the environment should stand a better chance against selfish businessmen. My view is that an independent department, either under the government or not, should handle authorisations, that way impartiality might better exist. As it has been stated, it will take 3 years to transfer DMEs mandate to DEAT, why not build up expertise and establish a separate &#8216;ministry&#8217;, still having DEAT as the ultimate appeal authority though? Economics and the environment just need to find a way of being friends, as both need each other to survive, and ultimately the human race needs them both to sustain our existence!!!</p>
<p>Carlyn Frittelli, Pretoria South Africa.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wild Coast residents lobby for development by Nambitha Filtane</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/wild-coast-residents-lobby-for-development.htm#comment-927</link>
		<author>Nambitha Filtane</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/wild-coast-residents-lobby-for-development.htm#comment-927</guid>
					<description>I refer to the article published on the 7th may 08, and it confirms that the poorest are exploited and used by those that claim to be above everyone else/elite 

" John Clarke, a social worker acting on behalf of the committee, said the Australian company, Mineral Resource Commodities, appeared to be exploiting isolated rural residents rather than fighting its own battles. Clarke questioned who was funding the travel and accommodation expenses of the Pretoria protesters, and also whether the group was genuinely representative of people living in the Xolobeni area.

Yes who paid for the flight and accomodation for the protesters? this is going to cause violence and to avoid such this project should be aborted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I refer to the article published on the 7th may 08, and it confirms that the poorest are exploited and used by those that claim to be above everyone else/elite </p>
<p>&#8221; John Clarke, a social worker acting on behalf of the committee, said the Australian company, Mineral Resource Commodities, appeared to be exploiting isolated rural residents rather than fighting its own battles. Clarke questioned who was funding the travel and accommodation expenses of the Pretoria protesters, and also whether the group was genuinely representative of people living in the Xolobeni area.</p>
<p>Yes who paid for the flight and accomodation for the protesters? this is going to cause violence and to avoid such this project should be aborted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Digging up trouble by Nambitha Filtane</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/digging-up-trouble.htm#comment-926</link>
		<author>Nambitha Filtane</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/digging-up-trouble.htm#comment-926</guid>
					<description>I support  Nonhle Mbuthuma, she has a backbone for someone her age, keep it up and fight for whats right regardless of who is against it. Most of the community members cannot see through Mazizi Msutu and his associates, who are willing to dig graves to feed their pockets, it seems bribery is the foundation for projects that lend in this company, as for Qunya i think he is being used and if he realy received a 4x4, he must try and put the price on it again as its not worth the loss that will be caused to the community of Xolobeni. PEOPLE FIRST.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support  Nonhle Mbuthuma, she has a backbone for someone her age, keep it up and fight for whats right regardless of who is against it. Most of the community members cannot see through Mazizi Msutu and his associates, who are willing to dig graves to feed their pockets, it seems bribery is the foundation for projects that lend in this company, as for Qunya i think he is being used and if he realy received a 4&#215;4, he must try and put the price on it again as its not worth the loss that will be caused to the community of Xolobeni. PEOPLE FIRST.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Residents on warpath over dune mining by Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/residents-on-warpath-over-dune-mining.htm#comment-620</link>
		<author>Robert</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/residents-on-warpath-over-dune-mining.htm#comment-620</guid>
					<description>I think it is terrible that the people involved in this project are taking advantage of the local community by promising them short term advantages. The whole project will destroy one of the most beutiful places on earth. I have travelled all around the world and also hiked through the transkei and have never found anywhere that rivals the wild coasts scenery. I would like to know if there is anyway I could help to stop this terrible distruction! I am so tired of our government making decisions that benefit themselves and not the country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is terrible that the people involved in this project are taking advantage of the local community by promising them short term advantages. The whole project will destroy one of the most beutiful places on earth. I have travelled all around the world and also hiked through the transkei and have never found anywhere that rivals the wild coasts scenery. I would like to know if there is anyway I could help to stop this terrible distruction! I am so tired of our government making decisions that benefit themselves and not the country!</p>
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		<title>Comment on DEAT objections to Xolobeni mining proposal on Wild Coast by valpayn</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-363</link>
		<author>valpayn</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-363</guid>
					<description>Indeed, it is imperative that the matter needs sober and dispassionate reflection that looks at development from a holistic point of view. It is not as simple a matter as weighing up the economic costs and benefits of mining against the economic benefits and costs of other alternatives, for how does one determine what constitutes economic costs and benefits, or the 'economic value' of ' free natural services' that are provided by healthy eco-systems, (e.g.unpolluted water, rich biodiversity, a stable ecological  system that has established itself over millions of years and that provides many benefits to communities in terms of 'free' resources use). How does one 'economically value' a traditional way of life that communities still value and uphold and which is integrally interlinked with land?

Yes, there is no 'value' in poverty, and nobody is advocating that Wild Coast Communities should be doomed to a life of poverty. But it is not as simple a matter as saying the mining will produce x tons of titanium over 25 years sold at x amount while tourism will produce x amount of visitors, and 
generate x amount of capital, therefore mining is preferable (or not) to eco- tourism or vice versa. A selective economic view that equates 'value' purely in terms of market price has contributed to a world system where the poorest 3 billion people in the world ( more than half of humanity) only 
share 1.4% of global wealth( Institute of Policy Studies 2004), as such a view neglects to include many aspects of eco-system benefits that contribute to improved life quality. Degrading eco-systems that the poor depend upon 
has immediate impoverishing repercussions for the poor and exacerbates poverty.
Even if mining was shown to be more 'economically profitable' than alternative forms of development, a primary consideration is 'who will benefit?'. Alternatively, what sort of development would bring the most economic opportunities to the greatest number of people? Indications are 
that, under current mining policy, very little of the benefits of mining will go back to those communities who will loose the benefits of  the land they presently occupy and have occupied for centuries.
One also has to ask, in the event of mining being approved, what vestiges of 'development' would be left after the 25 year lifespan of the mine. South Africa has many 'ghost towns' where 'development' that has been centred around mining collapses once mining operations wrap up.

In terms of environmental recovery, there is no case study that has been undertaken to indicate that rehabilitation as proposed by the mining company will be successful or even possible, and every indication that the mining will lead to irreversible, large scale, environmental damage of an 
internationally recognised 'botanical hotspot' which is still remarkably intact and pristine.

Incidentally, a cost benefit analysis conducted as part of the Wild Coast Conservation and Development Plan indicates that in the long term, well planned eco -tourism development of the region would bring far greater and 
more sustainable economic prosperity, with benefits spread over a wider population, than mining.
Wild Coast Communities who live on the land proposed for mining are strongly opposed to the use of the land they occupy for mining, as it is currently advocated. For anyone to disregard this is, in my view, tantamount to perpetuating 'forced removals' of the apartheid era.'

Australian musicians Paul Kelly and Kev Carmody sing of the struggle by Aboriginals against land exploitation in the song 'From Little Things, Big Things Grow'. Isn't it ironic that South Africa's Pondo people are now engaged in a similar struggle against an Australian mining company?

Val Payn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, it is imperative that the matter needs sober and dispassionate reflection that looks at development from a holistic point of view. It is not as simple a matter as weighing up the economic costs and benefits of mining against the economic benefits and costs of other alternatives, for how does one determine what constitutes economic costs and benefits, or the &#8216;economic value&#8217; of &#8216; free natural services&#8217; that are provided by healthy eco-systems, (e.g.unpolluted water, rich biodiversity, a stable ecological  system that has established itself over millions of years and that provides many benefits to communities in terms of &#8216;free&#8217; resources use). How does one &#8216;economically value&#8217; a traditional way of life that communities still value and uphold and which is integrally interlinked with land?</p>
<p>Yes, there is no &#8216;value&#8217; in poverty, and nobody is advocating that Wild Coast Communities should be doomed to a life of poverty. But it is not as simple a matter as saying the mining will produce x tons of titanium over 25 years sold at x amount while tourism will produce x amount of visitors, and<br />
generate x amount of capital, therefore mining is preferable (or not) to eco- tourism or vice versa. A selective economic view that equates &#8216;value&#8217; purely in terms of market price has contributed to a world system where the poorest 3 billion people in the world ( more than half of humanity) only<br />
share 1.4% of global wealth( Institute of Policy Studies 2004), as such a view neglects to include many aspects of eco-system benefits that contribute to improved life quality. Degrading eco-systems that the poor depend upon<br />
has immediate impoverishing repercussions for the poor and exacerbates poverty.<br />
Even if mining was shown to be more &#8216;economically profitable&#8217; than alternative forms of development, a primary consideration is &#8216;who will benefit?&#8217;. Alternatively, what sort of development would bring the most economic opportunities to the greatest number of people? Indications are<br />
that, under current mining policy, very little of the benefits of mining will go back to those communities who will loose the benefits of  the land they presently occupy and have occupied for centuries.<br />
One also has to ask, in the event of mining being approved, what vestiges of &#8216;development&#8217; would be left after the 25 year lifespan of the mine. South Africa has many &#8216;ghost towns&#8217; where &#8216;development&#8217; that has been centred around mining collapses once mining operations wrap up.</p>
<p>In terms of environmental recovery, there is no case study that has been undertaken to indicate that rehabilitation as proposed by the mining company will be successful or even possible, and every indication that the mining will lead to irreversible, large scale, environmental damage of an<br />
internationally recognised &#8216;botanical hotspot&#8217; which is still remarkably intact and pristine.</p>
<p>Incidentally, a cost benefit analysis conducted as part of the Wild Coast Conservation and Development Plan indicates that in the long term, well planned eco -tourism development of the region would bring far greater and<br />
more sustainable economic prosperity, with benefits spread over a wider population, than mining.<br />
Wild Coast Communities who live on the land proposed for mining are strongly opposed to the use of the land they occupy for mining, as it is currently advocated. For anyone to disregard this is, in my view, tantamount to perpetuating &#8216;forced removals&#8217; of the apartheid era.&#8217;</p>
<p>Australian musicians Paul Kelly and Kev Carmody sing of the struggle by Aboriginals against land exploitation in the song &#8216;From Little Things, Big Things Grow&#8217;. Isn&#8217;t it ironic that South Africa&#8217;s Pondo people are now engaged in a similar struggle against an Australian mining company?</p>
<p>Val Payn</p>
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		<title>Comment on DRAFT EIA XOLOBENI MINING PROPOSAL by Zanele</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/draft-eia-xolobeni-mining-proposal.htm#comment-329</link>
		<author>Zanele</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/draft-eia-xolobeni-mining-proposal.htm#comment-329</guid>
					<description>I am a tourism lecturer and this topic was discussed with my second year students. It is amazing how much our students are aware of the need to sustain our environment. What is not clear here is how strong is the power of the community? Does the community really have the last say? Those who support the mining should understand that jobs come and go, but once the environment has been destroyed , htere is no second chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a tourism lecturer and this topic was discussed with my second year students. It is amazing how much our students are aware of the need to sustain our environment. What is not clear here is how strong is the power of the community? Does the community really have the last say? Those who support the mining should understand that jobs come and go, but once the environment has been destroyed , htere is no second chance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DEAT objections to Xolobeni mining proposal on Wild Coast by Garry McDougall</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-315</link>
		<author>Garry McDougall</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-315</guid>
					<description>I believe in weighing up the potential economic benefits for this impoverished community against its costs. There is no romance in poverty alongside of 'pristine' Nature. And of course it is not pristine at all. Moreover, mineral sands mining, if well planned and executed, offers environmental recovery that may actually benefit tourism and recreation. There is no room for black and white depictions, or passionate advocacy; this issue is too serious. We need dispassionate analysis, sober considerations of the costs and benefits. Anything else is self indulgent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in weighing up the potential economic benefits for this impoverished community against its costs. There is no romance in poverty alongside of &#8216;pristine&#8217; Nature. And of course it is not pristine at all. Moreover, mineral sands mining, if well planned and executed, offers environmental recovery that may actually benefit tourism and recreation. There is no room for black and white depictions, or passionate advocacy; this issue is too serious. We need dispassionate analysis, sober considerations of the costs and benefits. Anything else is self indulgent.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DRAFT EIA XOLOBENI MINING PROPOSAL by Natasha Lehman</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/draft-eia-xolobeni-mining-proposal.htm#comment-314</link>
		<author>Natasha Lehman</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/draft-eia-xolobeni-mining-proposal.htm#comment-314</guid>
					<description>The world is going 'green', trying to save every last bit of resources, wildlife and human health. Can this be a reminder to those trying to proceed mining to look at these aspects carefully, for I think it was never even questioned. I fully agree, this is well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world is going &#8216;green&#8217;, trying to save every last bit of resources, wildlife and human health. Can this be a reminder to those trying to proceed mining to look at these aspects carefully, for I think it was never even questioned. I fully agree, this is well written.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Petition from Bund für Umwelt und Naturschutz by Natasha</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/petition-from-bund-fur-umwelt-und-naturschutz.htm#comment-313</link>
		<author>Natasha</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/petition-from-bund-fur-umwelt-und-naturschutz.htm#comment-313</guid>
					<description>My voice is powerless today as I am not the one benefiting money into my pocket as those that will with the mining project, for they have all the unwisely say, working riches into their souls and depriving their own children of the benefit to live life and enjoy. Unfortunately their own children will not know what beauty is either because they will never get to see and experience this coast. If our own people of south africa would spend a small minute to stand together and to be granted to say something, a more powerful voice would be heard. That is all we can give right now. Our sense of rands can be questioned in a far more appropriate way than it being placed on something we don't want at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My voice is powerless today as I am not the one benefiting money into my pocket as those that will with the mining project, for they have all the unwisely say, working riches into their souls and depriving their own children of the benefit to live life and enjoy. Unfortunately their own children will not know what beauty is either because they will never get to see and experience this coast. If our own people of south africa would spend a small minute to stand together and to be granted to say something, a more powerful voice would be heard. That is all we can give right now. Our sense of rands can be questioned in a far more appropriate way than it being placed on something we don&#8217;t want at all.</p>
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		<title>Comment on DEAT objections to Xolobeni mining proposal on Wild Coast by The proposed mining venture in Xolobeni again makes news. &#171; Transkeidat</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-310</link>
		<author>The proposed mining venture in Xolobeni again makes news. &#171; Transkeidat</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm#comment-310</guid>
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