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	<title>Comments on: DEAT objections to Xolobeni mining proposal on Wild Coast</title>
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		<title>By: valpayn</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm/comment-page-1#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>valpayn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, it is imperative that the matter needs sober and dispassionate reflection that looks at development from a holistic point of view. It is not as simple a matter as weighing up the economic costs and benefits of mining against the economic benefits and costs of other alternatives, for how does one determine what constitutes economic costs and benefits, or the &#039;economic value&#039; of &#039; free natural services&#039; that are provided by healthy eco-systems, (e.g.unpolluted water, rich biodiversity, a stable ecological  system that has established itself over millions of years and that provides many benefits to communities in terms of &#039;free&#039; resources use). How does one &#039;economically value&#039; a traditional way of life that communities still value and uphold and which is integrally interlinked with land?

Yes, there is no &#039;value&#039; in poverty, and nobody is advocating that Wild Coast Communities should be doomed to a life of poverty. But it is not as simple a matter as saying the mining will produce x tons of titanium over 25 years sold at x amount while tourism will produce x amount of visitors, and 
generate x amount of capital, therefore mining is preferable (or not) to eco- tourism or vice versa. A selective economic view that equates &#039;value&#039; purely in terms of market price has contributed to a world system where the poorest 3 billion people in the world ( more than half of humanity) only 
share 1.4% of global wealth( Institute of Policy Studies 2004), as such a view neglects to include many aspects of eco-system benefits that contribute to improved life quality. Degrading eco-systems that the poor depend upon 
has immediate impoverishing repercussions for the poor and exacerbates poverty.
Even if mining was shown to be more &#039;economically profitable&#039; than alternative forms of development, a primary consideration is &#039;who will benefit?&#039;. Alternatively, what sort of development would bring the most economic opportunities to the greatest number of people? Indications are 
that, under current mining policy, very little of the benefits of mining will go back to those communities who will loose the benefits of  the land they presently occupy and have occupied for centuries.
One also has to ask, in the event of mining being approved, what vestiges of &#039;development&#039; would be left after the 25 year lifespan of the mine. South Africa has many &#039;ghost towns&#039; where &#039;development&#039; that has been centred around mining collapses once mining operations wrap up.

In terms of environmental recovery, there is no case study that has been undertaken to indicate that rehabilitation as proposed by the mining company will be successful or even possible, and every indication that the mining will lead to irreversible, large scale, environmental damage of an 
internationally recognised &#039;botanical hotspot&#039; which is still remarkably intact and pristine.

Incidentally, a cost benefit analysis conducted as part of the Wild Coast Conservation and Development Plan indicates that in the long term, well planned eco -tourism development of the region would bring far greater and 
more sustainable economic prosperity, with benefits spread over a wider population, than mining.
Wild Coast Communities who live on the land proposed for mining are strongly opposed to the use of the land they occupy for mining, as it is currently advocated. For anyone to disregard this is, in my view, tantamount to perpetuating &#039;forced removals&#039; of the apartheid era.&#039;

Australian musicians Paul Kelly and Kev Carmody sing of the struggle by Aboriginals against land exploitation in the song &#039;From Little Things, Big Things Grow&#039;. Isn&#039;t it ironic that South Africa&#039;s Pondo people are now engaged in a similar struggle against an Australian mining company?

Val Payn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, it is imperative that the matter needs sober and dispassionate reflection that looks at development from a holistic point of view. It is not as simple a matter as weighing up the economic costs and benefits of mining against the economic benefits and costs of other alternatives, for how does one determine what constitutes economic costs and benefits, or the &#8216;economic value&#8217; of &#8216; free natural services&#8217; that are provided by healthy eco-systems, (e.g.unpolluted water, rich biodiversity, a stable ecological  system that has established itself over millions of years and that provides many benefits to communities in terms of &#8216;free&#8217; resources use). How does one &#8216;economically value&#8217; a traditional way of life that communities still value and uphold and which is integrally interlinked with land?</p>
<p>Yes, there is no &#8216;value&#8217; in poverty, and nobody is advocating that Wild Coast Communities should be doomed to a life of poverty. But it is not as simple a matter as saying the mining will produce x tons of titanium over 25 years sold at x amount while tourism will produce x amount of visitors, and<br />
generate x amount of capital, therefore mining is preferable (or not) to eco- tourism or vice versa. A selective economic view that equates &#8216;value&#8217; purely in terms of market price has contributed to a world system where the poorest 3 billion people in the world ( more than half of humanity) only<br />
share 1.4% of global wealth( Institute of Policy Studies 2004), as such a view neglects to include many aspects of eco-system benefits that contribute to improved life quality. Degrading eco-systems that the poor depend upon<br />
has immediate impoverishing repercussions for the poor and exacerbates poverty.<br />
Even if mining was shown to be more &#8216;economically profitable&#8217; than alternative forms of development, a primary consideration is &#8216;who will benefit?&#8217;. Alternatively, what sort of development would bring the most economic opportunities to the greatest number of people? Indications are<br />
that, under current mining policy, very little of the benefits of mining will go back to those communities who will loose the benefits of  the land they presently occupy and have occupied for centuries.<br />
One also has to ask, in the event of mining being approved, what vestiges of &#8216;development&#8217; would be left after the 25 year lifespan of the mine. South Africa has many &#8216;ghost towns&#8217; where &#8216;development&#8217; that has been centred around mining collapses once mining operations wrap up.</p>
<p>In terms of environmental recovery, there is no case study that has been undertaken to indicate that rehabilitation as proposed by the mining company will be successful or even possible, and every indication that the mining will lead to irreversible, large scale, environmental damage of an<br />
internationally recognised &#8216;botanical hotspot&#8217; which is still remarkably intact and pristine.</p>
<p>Incidentally, a cost benefit analysis conducted as part of the Wild Coast Conservation and Development Plan indicates that in the long term, well planned eco -tourism development of the region would bring far greater and<br />
more sustainable economic prosperity, with benefits spread over a wider population, than mining.<br />
Wild Coast Communities who live on the land proposed for mining are strongly opposed to the use of the land they occupy for mining, as it is currently advocated. For anyone to disregard this is, in my view, tantamount to perpetuating &#8216;forced removals&#8217; of the apartheid era.&#8217;</p>
<p>Australian musicians Paul Kelly and Kev Carmody sing of the struggle by Aboriginals against land exploitation in the song &#8216;From Little Things, Big Things Grow&#8217;. Isn&#8217;t it ironic that South Africa&#8217;s Pondo people are now engaged in a similar struggle against an Australian mining company?</p>
<p>Val Payn</p>
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		<title>By: Garry McDougall</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm/comment-page-1#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Garry McDougall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in weighing up the potential economic benefits for this impoverished community against its costs. There is no romance in poverty alongside of &#039;pristine&#039; Nature. And of course it is not pristine at all. Moreover, mineral sands mining, if well planned and executed, offers environmental recovery that may actually benefit tourism and recreation. There is no room for black and white depictions, or passionate advocacy; this issue is too serious. We need dispassionate analysis, sober considerations of the costs and benefits. Anything else is self indulgent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in weighing up the potential economic benefits for this impoverished community against its costs. There is no romance in poverty alongside of &#8216;pristine&#8217; Nature. And of course it is not pristine at all. Moreover, mineral sands mining, if well planned and executed, offers environmental recovery that may actually benefit tourism and recreation. There is no room for black and white depictions, or passionate advocacy; this issue is too serious. We need dispassionate analysis, sober considerations of the costs and benefits. Anything else is self indulgent.</p>
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		<title>By: The proposed mining venture in Xolobeni again makes news. &#171; Transkeidat</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm/comment-page-1#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>The proposed mining venture in Xolobeni again makes news. &#171; Transkeidat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erelah Gafni</title>
		<link>http://www.swc.org.za/deat-objections-to-xolobeni-mining-proposal-on-wild-coast.htm/comment-page-1#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Erelah Gafni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so happy that you are doing this work to protect this amazing area of South Africa. Please know that people all over the world are cheering you on. 
Erelah Gafni
Oakland California</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy that you are doing this work to protect this amazing area of South Africa. Please know that people all over the world are cheering you on.<br />
Erelah Gafni<br />
Oakland California</p>
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